24 December 2020

15 December 2020

Vancouver Park Board and City committed to ending encampment, providing indoor shelter, for those sleeping in Strathcona Park

 December 14 2020 

The Vancouver Park Board, City of Vancouver, and partners are committed to ending the encampment in Strathcona Park as soon as possible. All partners continue to work on long-term solutions, but in the meantime several short-term solutions are underway, including providing temporary indoor spaces.

Properties identified

We have identified several properties that can be deployed as temporary indoor spaces to support bringing people experiencing unsheltered homelessness inside. City-owned sites include Jericho Hostel and 2400 Motel as directed by Vancouver City Council, with the use of the Jericho Hostel also recently approved by the Park Board. We are also working with BC Housing to secure additional temporary shelter spaces.

Our staff are working to activate these facilities as soon as possible, including applying for operating funding from the Province, notifying the surrounding communities, planning and implementing renovations, and securing non-profit operators.

“The status quo at Strathcona Park is not OK. We need a resolution to the encampment. I believe we are on track to do that,” said Camil Dumont, Park Board Chair. “In order to get there, safer, dry, warm, indoor shelter for the many people currently stuck outdoors needs to be made available. Securing that option is a significant challenge. Thankfully, this work is under way. It’s a complex effort. I am very encouraged by the work of our partners which aims to ensure indoor space that is as dignified and as safe as possible is made available to the people taking refuge in Strathcona Park. That said, there is still much to do. We strive to ensure that Strathcona Park will again, soon, be a space that is welcoming and accessible to all. We also need to help ensure people are as safe as possible in the interim, in the park, and in the community at large.”

Once indoor spaces are available for people staying in Strathcona Park, the Park Board has authorized General Manager Donnie Rosa to enforce the Parks Control By-law. The revised by-law enacted by commissioners in September still allows overnight camping; however, tents must be removed by 8am each morning. However, the goal of all of the partners is to work together and with people experiencing homelessness in the park to support their voluntary transition indoors. 

Interim essential services

While work continues to bring the additional temporary spaces online, BC Housing and the City of Vancouver are working together to plan some interim essential services for people sleeping in Strathcona Park. 

“We and our partners want to ensure that people have a safe, warm place to sleep indoors,” said Sandra Singh, General Manager of Arts, Culture and Community Services for the City of Vancouver. “This winter is particularly difficult. The combination of the pandemic and the falling temperatures is making a difficult situation even worse and we are in active discussions with the Province regarding funding to provide shelter and housing options as soon as we can. Of course, given we are in a pandemic, we will also engage with Vancouver Coastal Health to ensure we have appropriate protocols and procedures in place as we do this work.” 

Fire safety regulations

In addition, a ‘Fire Chief’s Order’ was issued on June 25, 2020, to outline fire safety regulations for those living in the park. Enforcement of the order, or any new order, will include the removal of propane tanks and flammable materials, as well as ensuring proper spacing of tents and structures to limit the risk of fire spread.

Funding for permanent housing

Separately, we have also applied for funding of up to $51.5 million to support creating permanent housing for people experiencing homelessness through the federal government’s Rapid Housing Initiative, and are anticipating a response in the near future.

City staff also continue to actively work to house people experiencing homelessness at the park while these indoor solutions are being organized, with the ultimate goal being decampment into permanent shelter options. These efforts are in addition to ongoing work to house people experiencing homelessness across the city.

17 October 2020

Green Party of Vancouver Statement on ‘Freedom Rally’ scheduled this weekend

Published Oct 17, 2020 10:26 AM

 VANCOUVER, B.C. – The Green Party of Vancouver stands in strong opposition to the dangerous and deceptive two-day ‘freedom rally’ scheduled for this weekend in Vancouver. While we unequivocally support the right to free speech and political protests, the rally and its organizers are promoting inaccurate, divisive, and harmful information which directly oppose Greens’ commitment to evidence-based policies and a healthy participatory democracy.

 The Party, backed by its full Caucus and Board, has signed on to the letter of concern put out by the Vancouver & District Labour Council (VDLC) and are supporting their effort to shed light on the growing movement of conspiracy theorists, hate-groups, and those spreading misinformation about Covid-19.

 “We at the Green Party have serious concerns regarding this event and others like it which have taken place over the past few months” said Anthony Hughes, Chair of the Green Party of Vancouver.

 “As Greens our founding values include Non-violence, Social Justice, and Respect for Diversity; as such we stand staunchly opposed to all forms of hate and bigotry, as well as any groups or individuals who put the public’s safety at risk with misinformation.

“We want to be clear that hate and untruths in any form go against our Green values and our code of conduct, and we will always stand up against anyone furthering hatred and misinformation.”

Green Party of Vancouver School Trustee Lois Chan-Pedley fears the impact it will have on students in Vancouver.

 “We have seen how divisive rhetoric and misinformation about Covid-19 in America has put the health and safety of students at risk,” said Chan-Pedley. “The consequences are long term and far-reaching. We have to combat this by making a united stand against this dangerous movement.”

 Stuart Mackinnon, Green Party Park Board Commissioner, is concerned about how quickly this movement and its message could spread.

 “In our role at Parks, we’ve seen a lot of untruths and falsehoods propagate since the pandemic began,” said Mackinnon.

 “The rhetoric we’ve seen coming from proponents and supporters of the rally has become increasingly hateful and deceitful; it puts people’s physical, mental and emotional wellbeing at risk at a time when people are already struggling.”

 City Councillor Pete Fry stressed the importance of standing up to bigotry.

“None of us can afford to shirk away from these difficult conversations,” said Fry.

 “We need to stand firmly against hate, racism, and bigotry in all forms, shed light on untruths, and be clear about the dangerous divisive nature of these types of events and the kinds of rhetoric and anger they foster.”

 The Green Party of Vancouver will not be taking part in any in-person events opposing this rally in order to prevent the spread of COVID-19. Instead the Party is encouraging their supporters and the public to speak out against hatred and misinformation wherever and whenever they witness it.

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 More Information:

VDLC Letter of Concern

18 September 2020

Stanley Park to reopen seawall to cyclists and full vehicle access Sep 26

September 18 2020 

Stanley Park will reopen to full vehicle access and cyclists will return to the seawall on Saturday, September 26, after more than 5 months of modified access due to the COVID-19 (Coronavirus) pandemic.

The park was closed to all vehicle traffic on April 8, other than first responders and essential business partners, in response to the need for greater physical distancing in busy areas such as the seawall, and amid public requests for greater access to essential recreational space for cycling and walking during the early phase of the pandemic.

Park Drive reopened to one lane of vehicle traffic on June 22, following the province’s easing of restrictions and after businesses in the park began reopening. The seawall remained closed to cyclists to allow pedestrians greater space during the busy summer months when pedestrian and cyclist traffic in the park reached an all-time high.

Park temporarily closed starting 8pm, Sep 25

Removal of the temporary Traffic Management Plan (TMP) will begin at 8 pm on Friday, September 25 and will continue through the night. The park will be temporarily closed during that time, to ensure the safety of staff as they work to remove equipment, traffic cones, and signage to restore the park to pre-COVID traffic access.

700 m of Park Drive to remain closed

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Two lanes of vehicle traffic will be accessible the following morning, with the exception of 700 m of Park Drive between Beach Avenue and Lagoon Drive, where current traffic patterns will remain in place to facilitate the City’s Making Streets for People program dedicating part of Beach Avenue to cyclists.

Full vehicle access to Stanley Park will be available at the causeway entrances and all parking will be fully reopened with the exception of the parking near Ceperley Meadows.

Once full vehicle access resumes and cyclists return to the seawall, pedestrians and cyclists will be reminded to be cognizant of physical distancing to ensure all users have the space they need to recreate safely. The Park Board will continue to monitor and collect data within Stanley Park.​​​​​​​

Survey on park access open until Sep 20

The Park Board is currently conducting a comprehensive public engagement survey External website, opens in new tab to understand how Vancouverites want to access the park in the future.

The survey, which is accessible to everyone, closes on Sunday, September 20 and has had more than 10,500 respondents to date.

Phased approach to reopening and recovery

The Park Board is taking a thoughtful and phased reopening and recovery approach in alignment with BC’s Restart Plan External website, opens in new tab, and in consultation with various government and non-government agencies and partners.

Since May, the Park Board has reopened golf courses, VanDusen Botanical Garden, Bloedel Conservatory, tennis and pickleball courts, pitch & putts, skate parks, synthetic sports fields, basketball and volleyball courts, disc golf, roller hockey, multisport courts, playgrounds, spray parks, outdoor pools, day camps, childcare services, 24 community centres, four indoor pools, and some fitness centres.

The Park Board continues to review the feasibility of reopening other facilities and services and will make adjustments to its operations based on the latest information provided by VCH, the Provincial Health Officer, and industry partners.

For more information about the status of services and facilities impacted by COVID-19, please visit: vancouver.ca/ParkBoardRestart


31 August 2020

Donnie Rosa to lead Vancouver Park Board as General Manager


Donnie Rosa, Vancouver Park Board General Manager


August 31 2020

The Vancouver Board of Parks and Recreation and City of Vancouver will welcome an experienced municipal leader to the role of General Manager, Parks and Recreation, when Donnie Rosa assumes the role on September 28, 2020.

Rosa brings a unique familiarity, strategic insight, and invaluable experience to the General Manager role, after previously spending three years on the senior leadership team at the Vancouver Board of Parks and Recreation in the role of Director of Recreation Services.

Rosa left the Vancouver Park Board in 2019 to lead the City of Coquitlam as General Manager of Parks, Recreation, and Culture. Prior to joining the Park Board in 2016, Rosa spent nine years as Director of Recreation, Culture, and Theatres at the City of Brampton and was the Manager of Parks and Recreation at the City of Mississauga from 1999-2007.

25 years experience in parks, recreation, and culture operations


Rosa brings more than 25 years of experience in parks, recreation, and culture operations, coupled with a degree in communications from Northeastern University. Additionally, Rosa has worked in mental health and homeless shelters, and has a breadth of experience working in community development, youth and seniors’ programming, and the delivery of parks, unique gardens, trails, and open spaces to contribute to community resiliency and climate action.

Rosa offers a leadership style that is focused on building strong teams with a foundation in meaningful relationships.

“It’s an honour to be chosen to lead the incredible team at the Park Board,” said Rosa. “I’m passionate about parks, recreation, community, seeking truth in reconciliation, as well as increasing access, equity, and taking action on climate issues. I feel my values align closely with those of the Park Board and City of Vancouver. We have challenging work ahead of us and I know we have the talent and commitment to find solutions, with community engagement as a cornerstone in our approach.”

Past successes with the Park Board


While serving as Director of Recreation Services at the Park Board, Rosa was a key member of the team that successfully negotiated the new community centre joint operating agreement. Rosa is a settler working and living on the unceded, ancestral territories of xʷməθkʷəy̓əm (Musqueam), Sḵwx̱wú7mesh (Squamish), and Stó:lō and Səl̓ílwətaʔ/Selilwitulh (Tsleil-Waututh) Nations.

Background in sport and volunteerism


Along with extensive municipal experience, Rosa has an impressive background in sport and volunteerism. Rosa played professional ice hockey, was inducted into multiple hockey halls of fame, and coached in the Team Canada program for the International Ice Hockey Federation. Rosa is a committed and active community volunteer, as well as a multi-award winning leader, and has received multiple Leadership Awards from the City of Vancouver. Rosa currently serves as a Director and President-elect of the BC Recreation and Parks Association (BCRPA) in addition to being a BC Director on the Canadian Parks and Recreation Association (CPRA).

Rosa will replace Malcolm Bromley, who retired from the role at the end of May. Shauna Wilton, who had been Deputy General Manager at the Park Board, served as Interim General Manager for three months after Bromley’s retirement. Wilton is departing the Park Board and moving on from the Deputy General Manager role on September 4. Both the Park Board and City are extremely grateful to Wilton for her dedicated service and leadership over the past several years. 

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10 August 2020

Select arenas, fitness centres to reopen safely in September


August 10 2020

Vancouverites eager to return to indoor fitness and ice rink activities will find new COVID-19 safety measures in place as select locations are set to reopen in September.
The Vancouver Park Board, in partnership with local community centre associations, will begin by reopening 12 fitness centres in mid-September, with the 12 remaining locations reopening in a phased approach later this fall.

Similarly, Kerrisdale, Sunset, and Trout Lake arenas are scheduled to reopen September 21, with the remaining arenas aiming to reopen the following month.

“Our facilities play an important role in supporting not only the physical health of people in our community, but also their mental well-being, particularly in challenging times such as these,” said Daisy Chin, Director of Recreation for the Vancouver Park Board. “They also provide low-barrier options which meet the needs of a wide range of residents of various ages and abilities.”

Physical distancing and online reservation system


Fitness centres will reopen under new guidelines to promote physical distancing. This includes introducing an online reservation system for visitors, with 20% of spaces being reserved for onsite drop-in. Leisure Access Program patrons will be provided a code to make reservations.

Initially, arenas will only be available for organized play by permit holders. Plans to expand access to the general public are underway and will be offered once the required health and safety precautions are in place.

Fitness centres and arenas were voluntarily closed by the Park Board in mid-March in response to the COVID-19 pandemic.

Since May, the Park Board has reopened golf courses, VanDusen Botanical Garden, Bloedel Conservatory, tennis and pickleball courts, pitch and putts, skate parks, sports fields, basketball and volleyball courts, disc golf, roller hockey, multi-sport courts, playgrounds, spray parks, outdoor pools, and other priority programs.

 

Indoor pools update


The Park Board continues to review the feasibility of reopening other facilities and services and will make adjustments to its operations based on the latest information provided by Vancouver Coastal Health, the Provincial Health Officer, and industry partners.

In anticipation of federal and provincial funding support, the Park Board has developed a phased safe-return plan for indoor pools, and aims to provide a timeline in the coming weeks.

“Our teams have worked hard to come up with plans to deliver the services we know Vancouverites value,” said Chin. “But we’re still navigating the realities of this pandemic, including a reduction in expected revenues. It's important that we take time to carefully consider the long-term financial implications before committing to firm dates.”

For more information about the status of services and facilities impacted by COVID-19, visit: vancouver.ca/park-board-restart.

07 August 2020

Homeless Count results highlight imperative need for housing in Vancouver


August 5 2020

  
The preliminary results from the 2020 Metro Vancouver Homeless Count released today found that 2,095 Vancouver residents are without a home. While this number has dropped by 128 since last year, hundreds of people in the city are still without safe and stable accommodation that meets their basic needs.

The results also indicate that, despite the creation of new housing units, there continues to be a disproportionate number of people who identify as Indigenous who are experiencing homelessness.

More than 33% of those surveyed in Vancouver identifying as Indigenous, despite only 2.2% of Vancouver’s general population identifying as Indigenous. Racial identity data collected for the first time in a regional count reveals that Black people are significantly over represented among racialized groups experiencing homelessness – 6% of respondents identified as Black compared to 1.2% in the Metro Vancouver general population followed by “Asian – South” (3%), and “Latin American” (3%). The final report will include further analysis of this data.

These disparities highlight the continued work needed from all levels of government, including the City, on reconciliation, decolonization, equity, and anti-racism.

The full results will be published and presented to Council in the fall. Read the preliminary report PDF file (436 KB)

About the Homeless Count

Vancouver is facing a housing crisis and people experiencing homelessness continue to be the hardest hit. The Homeless Count – conducted every year in Vancouver since 2010 and in Metro Vancouver every three years since 2002 – provides important information about the number and experiences of people who are homeless in the area being surveyed.

The City uses this data to inform its own policies, as well as funding and supports requests to senior levels of government. We continue to partner with BC Housing to create safe, secure and affordable housing for people experiencing homelessness, including temporary emergency measures, such as homeless shelters and navigation centres, and additional longer term options, such as the expedited creation of more supportive housing.

While the count remains a key tool in tracking homelessness trends, it is important to note some factors that may have impacted the results this year. Firstly, the count took place in the early stages of the COVID-19 pandemic (March 3 and 4), prior to the Province declaring a State of Emergency on March 18. We know that COVID-19 has had a disproportionate impact on people on low-incomes due to job losses and, despite Provincial and Federal funding supports, the pandemic has created more precarious housing situations for many people.

The count is recognized to be an undercount as some people who are experiencing homelessness do not want to participate in the survey. Others, such as women, youth and those experiencing hidden homelessness, may be less likely to be included in the count due to the nature of the methodology. Moreover, the stigma associated with homelessness also can impact a person’s willingness to participate in the count or to be identified as experiencing homelessness.

Responding to the COVID-19 pandemic

In March 2020, the City of Vancouver convened a public partner, cross-departmental team to address the needs of those living in poverty and precarious housing or homelessness who are disproportionately impacted by COVID-19.

The team’s work included:

Improving hygiene and washroom access
Ensuring access to food
Improving access to income
Improving access to safe and secure places to sleep
Supporting overdose prevention and safe spaces.

This work was made possible by funding from the provincial and federal governments, as well as the support of community partners and regional and provincial organizations including BC Housing and Vancouver Coastal Health. The City is preparing for a potential second wave of the COVID-19 pandemic and the provision of safe housing and shelter options, as well as additional supports such as food, are key priorities.


Original article here

03 August 2020

Paul George, Co-Founder of the B.C. Green Party and Co-Founder of the Wilderness Committee, Awarded Order of British Columbia

MEDIA RELEASE – FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE – AUGUST 3, 2020



VANCOUVER, B.C. – Paul George, co-founder of  North America’s first Green Party, the Green Party of B.C., and co-founder of the British Columbia-based (Western Canada) Wilderness Committee is being awarded the Order of B.C., the highest recognition that the Province grants to any citizen.

The Order of B.C. is the Province’s highest honour for individuals who have served with great distinction or excelled in their field; inspiring individuals who have left a lasting legacy and whose extraordinary achievements have contributed to a better quality of life in the province.

“This is a great honour that everyone who helped make a reality and worked to build the Green Party should share, for it was always a group effort, not a one-person show,” said George.

"But I would rather have the Provincial Government stop the liquidation of the last one percent of the big-treed ancient forests of B.C. and quit promoting fossil fuel projects and rapidly reduce greenhouse gas emissions, because with global warming coming at us at super-pandemic-speed, all of our successful efforts to protect nature will be for naught." 

George was his wife, Adriane Carr’s, campaign manager when she ran for the Vancouver School Board in 1984 as a Green Party candidate, along with several other civic Green candidates. This was the start of the Vancouver Green Party. He has been a key part of the campaign teams in all of Carr’s election campaigns, including the last three successful Green Party of Vancouver campaigns.

More recently, George co-founded the Action-in-Time Society,  focused on action to combat global warming. George has been a consistent opponent of the Trans-Mountain Pipeline and passionately believes that we must act with urgency to curtail Greenhouse Gas emissions and convert our economy to rely on truly sustainable renewable energy.

George is incredibly grateful to those who endorsed him for this award, including David Suzuki and Wade Davis

For more information go to the Government of B.C.’s website:

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Contact:   
Paul George: +1 604-740-1321

26 July 2020

Childcare services returning to community centres in September

July 23 2020

Licensed childcare and preschool services will be able to reopen at 20 community centres across Vancouver starting September 1.

The majority of childcare services that operate out of Park Board community centres were closed in March in response to the COVID-19 (Coronavirus) pandemic, with the exception of Britannia, Creekside, Mount Pleasant, and Ray-Cam, which provided childcare to children of essential service workers.

About childcare services

Childcare services are offered through a valued partnership between the Vancouver Park Board, Community Centre Associations (CCAs), and third-party organizations.

The Park Board provides space and janitorial services, while CCAs and third parties operate the services. Specified reopening dates for September will be determined by individual CCAs and third-party operators.

Each childcare site supports between 20 to 174 children, ages two-and-a-half to 12. CCAs and third-party organizations will determine how their spaces will be filled and can give priority to children of essential service workers and vulnerable children and youth. Childcare and preschool licensees are required to use spaces in accordance to Vancouver Coastal Health (VCH) licensing regulations. VCH licensing does not require childcare operators to reduce their capacity.

Physical distancing measures

Physical distancing will be managed according to health guidance from the Ministry of Health and the Centre for Disease Control and will include a combination of markers, signage, and modified activities.

Staggered pick up and drop off times will be encouraged to reduce the chance of overcrowding, along with physical distancing measures.

Benefits of childcare and preschool

Licensed childcare provides opportunities for children to recreate and socialize with peers while developing various skills including communication, cooperative learning, and leadership.

Preschool provides essential early learning opportunities for children ages two-and-a-half to five years and assists in providing skills to become school-ready and in the development of core competencies.

Registration details

Some childcare and preschool services may already be filled as parents and guardians registered their children at the start of the year.

More details regarding registration will be posted when finalized at vancouver.ca/covid19.

Status of other Park Board facilities

At this time, there is no timeline for the reopening of gyms, fitness centres, and programming at community centres.

The Park Board is taking a thoughtful and phased reopening and recovery approach in alignment with BC's Restart Plan External website, opens in new tab, and in consultation with various government and non-government agencies and partners.

Since May, the Park Board has reopened golf courses, VanDusen Botanical Garden, Bloedel Conservatory, tennis and pickleball courts, pitch & putts, skate parks, synthetic sports fields, basketball and volleyball courts, disc golf, roller hockey, multisport courts, playgrounds, spray parks, and outdoor pools.

Restart and recovery

The Park Board continues to review the feasibility of reopening other facilities and services and will make adjustments to its operations based on the latest information provided by VCH, the Provincial Health Officer, and industry partners.

For more information about the status of Park Board services and facilities impacted by COVID-19, visit vancouver.ca/ParkBoardRestart.

15 July 2020

11 July 2020

Why We Need to Update the Parks Control By-Law on Sheltering in Parks

The following comes from the staff report to the Vancouver Board of Parks and Recreation. The full report Parks Control By-law Updates – Temporary Shelter in Parks can be found HERE


Canada is in the midst of a homelessness crisis, with urban centres being the epicentres of this crisis. With the rising need for affordable housing and often limited availability of low barrier shelter options, many people experiencing homelessness are sleeping outside in tents and other makeshift structures in public spaces and parks.

A series of British Columbia court decisions, starting with Victoria (City) v. Adams 2009 BCCA 563, have established that homeless people have a constitutional right to erect temporary overnight shelters on public lands in circumstances where there are insufficient appropriate housing options. In subsequent decisions, including the Abbotsford (City) v. Shantz case the Courts have struck down municipal bylaws that prohibited homeless people from erecting temporary shelters and sleeping in city parks.

In recognition of the case law, the Vancouver Park Board directed staff to review the Parks Control By-laws and report back with proposed amendments to address the constitutional rights of those experiencing homelessness, while also allowing for more effective management of shelters and encampments in parks. Staff had planned to present proposed by-law amendments at a Special Board meeting in March 2020; however this meeting was delayed due to the COVID-19 pandemic.

In the interim, any by-laws that would be in violation of Charter rights have not been enforced. Those experiencing homelessness have been able to seek temporary overnight shelter in parks, with Park Rangers requesting tents be removed each morning and only intervening if there is a concern around safety, park access, or impacts to other park uses.

Homelessness in Vancouver Parks 

Over the past several years, Vancouver’s rise in social issues such as the opioid crisis and homelessness have significantly impacted the use, safety, and cleanliness of many urban parks on a year round basis. The growing number of temporary structures being erected in parks due to homelessness, combined with urban densification putting more demands on limited green space, has resulted in increased conflicts requiring more attention from Park Rangers.

The growing demand for Park Ranger services is evident in the increased case volumes received during patrols, via 311 calls and VanConnect. There has been a 625% increase in total cases from 2015 to 2019. Most notably, cases related to temporary structures in parks saw significant increases year over year from 2017 to 2019. Based on current case trends, the total number of cases in 2020 is expected to continue to increase at a similar pace to previous years. As of the end of May, the total number of cases for 2020 was 7,065; if cases continue to increase at this rate it is anticipated that 2020 would see approximately 17,000 cases -- a 22% increase compared to the 13,849 cases seen in 2019.

In October 2019, Park Rangers undertook a citywide audit of all Vancouver parks to assess and identify all temporary homeless shelter activity occurring in parks. In addition to the 107 structures erected in the large encampment that was situated in Oppenheimer Park at that time (see Appendix B for more background on this encampment), they counted a total of 405 different occurrences within 116 parks distributed in all areas of the city. Of that total, 179 were deemed to be active (33 of which were in Stanley Park), with 226 appearing to be abandoned (no one present at that time) and requiring varying degrees of clean-up and debris removal.

When temporary structures erected as shelters remain in parks for extended periods of time, particularly if in concentrated numbers, the resulting encampments can impede community use of much needed public green spaces; result in the accumulation of debris and human waste; and create opportunities for increased violence and health risks. Depending on location, large encampments can also impact community programming, support services and events, and can result in significant damage to sport fields, playgrounds, park facilities, and natural habitats.

Currently about 85% of available ranger resources are required for monitoring and managing homeless shelter activity in parks. Due to the complexity of managing the associated issues, the rangers work closely with other city departments as well as community partners: the Vancouver Police (VPD) when dealing with public safety issues, with Park Operations and City of Vancouver Engineering when dealing with site management and clean-up, and with the City of Vancouver Homelessness Services Outreach Team and other community health teams when providing and facilitating support services to those experiencing homelessness and sheltering in parks.

In order for the Board to deliver on its mission, the Parks Control By-law must be updated to ensure it is enforceable and that it recognizes the needs of all park users, including those currently experiencing homelessness. The new by-laws outlined in this report have been developed based on the experience and knowledge staff have gained over the past few years, particularly in relation to the wide-reaching impacts large encampments can have on individuals experiencing homelessness and sleeping in parks, as well as on the communities and businesses surrounding them. Although encampments may provide a sense of safety and community for those that live within them, they often end-up disrupting and displacing much needed community services and access to green space, and can negatively impact the health and safety of neighbourhood businesses and residents when illicit activities become established  within and around the encampment. The goal of the proposed by-law amendments is to support those experiencing homelessness, but also to minimize impacts to parks and the community by limiting the potential for encampments to become established.

DISCUSSION 

In response to the Adams case law, several BC municipalities have updated their bylaws to allow for temporary overnight shelter in parks. To help inform the development of new by-laws to support Vancouver’s needs, Park Board staff reviewed other by-law updates, including those enacted by Abbotsford, Kelowna, Nanaimo, and Victoria, and also consulted with other municipal staff to learn more about how these new by-laws have been operationalized.

Consistent across most of the by-law updates were provisions for: - areas that temporary structures providing shelter may, or may not be, erected; - hours when the structures providing shelter may be erected; and - regulations around fire, alcohol use, litter, and smoking.

Some municipalities identified entire parks where temporary structures for shelter are prohibited (e.g. Victoria), and others already included areas designated for overnight camping (e.g. Nanaimo).

Based on this research, and through discussions with various Park Board and City of Vancouver teams (Rangers, Park Operations, Planning, Policy & Environment, Arts, Culture & Community Services, Legal Services, etc.), proposed amendments to the Parks Control By-law were developed to protect the Charter rights of people experiencing homelessness when they are seeking temporary shelter in parks.

Parks Control By-law – Proposed Amendments regarding Temporary Shelter in Parks 


Why Changes are Needed 

As a result of the case law, preventing a person experiencing homelessness from erecting a temporary structure to provide overnight shelter is a breach of their constitutional rights. Therefore, sections of the Vancouver Park Board’s by-laws that are currently unconstitutional include the provisions that prohibit: - remaining in a park after posted hours (section 3b); - taking up temporary abode overnight (section 10); and - erecting any tent or shelter without permission (section 11).

As such, it is proposed that the Parks Control By-law be amended to allow people to erect temporary overnight shelter in a park when they have no other housing or shelter options. The proposed amendments, attached as Appendix A, include adding two new sections (11A & 11B) that outline the conditions that apply to seeking temporary shelter in parks, along with some new definitions and minor revisions to other sections to support these added provisions. The key changes with rationale are outlined below. - 6 of 9- Park Board Special Meeting: July 13, 2020

What Changes are Needed 

As noted above, there are three sections in the by-law that require amendments to support those experiencing homelessness when erecting temporary structures to provide overnight shelter in parks. To clarify the meaning and intent of language included in the new sections, three new definitions have been added:

“HOMELESSNESS” means the state of having no access to permanent or temporary housing, accommodation, or shelter.

“NATURAL AREAS” are those areas of parks that are managed to retain their natural ecosystem attributes, are relatively undisturbed in an urban context, contain native or naturalized non-native plant species, and provide wildlife habitat, stormwater retention, and other ecosystem services; these include forests, ponds, wetlands, stream riparian zones, coastal environments, meadows, treed areas without mown understory, and unmanicured sections of golf courses.

“TEMPORARY SHELTER” means a tent or other temporary structure that provides shelter to a person experiencing homelessness and that is capable of being dismantled and moved, but does not include a vehicle.

There are two sections that currently prohibit when parks can be accessed. The first section requiring revision is Section 3(b), which states: “No person shall enter or remain in a park except during the hours posted”. With the posted hours at most parks being from 6am to 10pm, in order to allow people experiencing homelessness to sleep overnight in parks, it is recommended that this section be amended to: “Except as provided in section 11A, no person shall enter or remain in a park except during the hours posted.”

The second section requiring revision is Section 10, which states: No person shall conduct himself or herself in a disorderly or offensive manner, or molest or injure any other person, or loiter or take up a temporary abode overnight in any place on any portion of any park, or obstruct the free use and enjoyment of any park or place by any other person, or violate any by-law, rule, regulation, notice or command of the Board, the General Manager, Peace Officer, or any other person in control of or maintaining, superintending, or supervising any park of or under the custody, control and management of the Board; and any person conducting himself or herself as aforesaid may be removed or otherwise dealt with as in this by-law provided. 

To allow a person experiencing homelessness to sleep overnight in a park, it is recommended that the phrase “except as provided in section 11A” be added after “or take up a temporary abode in any place on any portion of any park”.

The third section requiring revision is Section 11, which currently states: “No person shall erect, construct or build or cause to be erected, constructed or built in or on any park any tent, building, shelter, pavilion or other construction whatsoever without the permission of the General Manager”. It is recommended that this clause be amended to add at the end: “, except that this provision does not apply to a temporary shelter that complies with the provisions of this by-law”. 

This revision will then support the recommended two new temporary shelter sections:

- Section 11A - includes provisions for allowing a “person experiencing homeless to take up temporary abode in a park” as long as the shelter complies with the provisions outlined in Section 11B.

- Section 11B – outlines where temporary shelters are prohibited, when they can be erected, what restrictions apply, and how the space can be used.

Where Temporary Shelters are Allowed 

In recognition of Vancouver’s vast and diverse park system, staff determined that rather than identifying specific parks or areas within parks where temporary shelters would be permitted, it would be more helpful to identify the types of places and areas where they would not be permitted (see Appendix A, Section 11B). Some of the factors considered when determining what areas would not be suitable for erecting temporary shelters included:

- mitigating risk to children & youth by requiring a 25 metre buffer around playgrounds and schools; e.g. the current opioid crisis often intersects with the homelessness crisis, resulting in the possibility of used needles and other debris found around temporary shelter sites;

- protecting sensitive environments of natural areas such as forests, meadows, wetlands, ponds, streams, and beaches; e.g. trampling and compaction of forest undergrowth and soils by temporary shelters can cause significant harm to these important ecosystems;

- reducing risk of fire and injury; e.g. setting-up temporary shelters in forested areas, such as those found in Stanley Park, can make detecting wildfires difficult and challenging to access by fire and emergency crews, putting both the person seeking shelter and the surrounding forest at risk, especially with the increasing seasonal periods of drought;

- ensuring access for all; e.g. keeping roads, pathways, trails, facilities, and entry points unimpeded is required for the use and safety of all parks and recreation patrons, staff, contractors, and emergency personnel; - protecting gardens and horticultural displays; e.g. community gardens, flower beds, and display gardens require regular maintenance and can be easily damaged if not protected or kept accessible;

- supporting parks & recreation for all; ensuring the community has access to safe and wellmaintained greenspace, community gardens, fieldhouses, and recreation amenities (sports courts & fields, pools & spray parks, skate parks, fitness equipment, playgrounds, etc.), is a primary function of the Park Board.

When Temporary Shelters are Allowed 

It is recommended that temporary shelters only be erected overnight and that they be removed each morning (dusk to 7am). In determining when temporary shelters could be erected in parks, some of the considered factors included:

- temporary shelters that remain in place for extended periods can impede public access to parks and facilities, cause damage to fields, gardens, and natural areas, and result in an accumulation of waste and debris;

- setting-up temporary shelter in the dark is challenging and since daylight hours change with the seasons, allowing for set-up at dusk provides for flexibility without requiring specific knowledge of the actual time of day;

- dismantling a temporary shelter requires a little time, so an hour buffer (to 8am) is provided to allow for packing-up in the morning; and

- a specific provision has been added to provide the General Manager the authority to designate areas for temporary daytime shelter on a situational basis if needed.

How Temporary Shelters are Allowed

 It is recommended that temporary shelter sites be contained within a 3 metre by 3 metre area, not impede access or use of a park or facility, and not present a public safety or health risk. When determining how temporary shelters could be erected in parks, some of the considered factors included:

- a maximum footprint would help contain the amount and spread of items, which supports the need for daily removal of any structures;

- several temporary shelters concentrated in a specific area are more likely to impact access; - use of open flame or other heating devices presents a safety concern;

- shelters should not be left unattended.

The primary intent of the proposed by-law changes is to ensure the Park Board has the tools needed to protect the park assets within its jurisdiction, while balancing the needs and rights of all park users. It is recognized that these amendments will not address the larger issue of homelessness, and that ongoing collaboration with all involved is required to ensure the resources and services needed to support this vulnerable community are provided.

NEXT STEPS 

Subject to Board approval, the proposed by-law amendments would be presented for enactment at a subsequent Regular Board meeting. Once enacted, plans to operationalize the new bylaws will be developed, including the development of monitoring and wrap-around support services, in consultation and partnership with key stakeholders and service providers.

Development of these plans will include reviewing the Park Rangers role in encampment monitoring, management, and by-law enforcement, with a separate report back to the Board on the overall ranger service model, as well as considering the various health, safety, and support needs of those experiencing homelessness and seeking shelter overnight in parks (clean water, washrooms, storage, etc.).

CONCLUSION 

Staff recommend that the Parks Control By-law be updated with the amendments proposed in Appendix A to ensure that its provisions do not infringe upon the constitutional rights of park users, and that it specifically protects the rights of those seeking overnight shelter in parks when they have no other suitable housing or shelter options available to them. Park Board staff are committed to continuing to work with community and government partners to support ongoing efforts to address the homelessness crisis in Vancouver, recognizing that additional resources and services are required to more effectively serve the needs of this marginalized population. Subject to Board approval, this by-law amendment will provide a clearer framework for staff to deliver on the Board’s mandate to provide, preserve, and advocate for parks and recreation services to benefit all people, communities, and the environment.

General Manager's Office
Vancouver Board of Parks and Recreation
Vancouver, BC 

07 July 2020

Bloedel Conservatory to reopen July 13


July 6 2020  

The Vancouver Park Board is reopening Bloedel Conservatory on Monday, July 13 with new physical distancing and operational procedures to ensure the safety of visitors, Vancouver Botanical Gardens Association members, and staff.

To limit contact onsite, visitors and members will be required to book a 45-minute time slot in advance, and will be asked to bring their ticket to scan at their designated entry time. Members will also be required to bring their membership card.

Physical distancing and sanitization


Visitors are reminded to keep two metres apart from others at all times, and the path in the conservatory will be one way to support physical distancing. The gift shop will remain closed. Washrooms and other high-touch areas will be sanitized regularly throughout the day.

The conservatory was closed on March 16 along with other Park Board facilities in response to the COVID-19 pandemic.

The Park Board is taking a thoughtful and phased reopening and recovery approach in alignment with the BC Restart Plan, and in consultation with various government and non-government agencies and partners.

Other reopened facilities


In recent weeks, the Park Board has reopened golf courses, VanDusen Botanical Garden, tennis and pickleball courts, pitch and putts, skate parks, synthetic sports fields, basketball and volleyball courts, disc golf, roller hockey, multisport courts, playgrounds and spray parks.

Beginning July 13, Kitsilano, New Brighton, and Second Beach outdoor pools will open and nine Vancouver beaches will be staffed with lifeguards. Maple Grove Pool will also open, but might be slightly delayed while staff configure the online booking system.

The Park Board continues to review the feasibility of reopening other facilities and services and will make adjustments to its operations based on the latest information provided by Vancouver Coastal Health, the Provincial Health Officer, and industry partners.

Visit vancouver.ca/covid19 for more information about the status of services and facilities impacted by COVID-19.

05 July 2020

Everyone wins with bike-car compromise in Stanley Park

ADRIENNE TANNER
VANCOUVER
SPECIAL TO THE GLOBE AND MAIL
PUBLISHED JULY 4, 2020

Adrienne Tanner is a Vancouver journalist who writes about civic affairs

The last time I biked the seawall around Stanley Park, I left with a skinned knee. I’d persuaded my husband to duck out of work early for a summer afternoon ride. The bike and pedestrian paths were jammed, and we were riding slowly when a woman pushing a baby stroller suddenly changed course and charged across the cycle lane. I hit the brakes – the woman behind me did not. She crashed into me and we went down in a heap. The accident wasn’t serious, but it took the glow off the afternoon.

Since then, I have stuck to cycling Stanley Park Drive, the road circumnavigating the park. It’s not as scenic, but I decided I’d rather take my chances with the cars than novice rollerbladers and straying pedestrians on the overcrowded seawall.

In early April, when Vancouver was already well into pandemic lockdown, droves of pedestrians and cyclists desperate for outdoor activities flocked to Stanley Park. Social distancing, especially at the seawall pinch points, was impossible. To free up room for pedestrians on the seawall, city staff temporarily closed the park to vehicles and diverted bikes to the road. I was thrilled. It was blissful to cycle the quiet tree-lined drive with no fear of being hit by a car.

The plan was a hit. About 370,000 people cycled the drive from the time of the ban was enacted until early June. In contrast, only 60,000 vehicles had used the road during the same period the year before. The mix of cyclists was radically different from the norm. Families with young children never used to bike the road and now, here they were. Some riders seemed unprepared for the hill, which is formidable if you aren’t in good shape. cycling trim. But even those pushing their bikes up the last bit were smiling and appeared triumphant at the top.

I was so busy selfishly revelling in the car-free zone, it wasn’t until debate over the road closure exploded that I considered the change had rendered vast swaths of the park inaccessible to others. People who can’t cycle or walk far, the elderly and people with disabilities were effectively denied access to Vancouver’s premiere natural green space.

As the number of COVID-19 cases waned and restaurants began to reopen, businesses such as the venerable Teahouse in Stanley Park and the Prospect Point Bar and Grill, which historically saw 87 per cent of customers arrive in cars or tour buses, added to the complaint chorus. The Prospect Point operators say that with 65 fewer parking spots, they fear for their survival. That assumes, possibly erroneously, that the legions of cyclists wouldn’t be interested in a bite to eat. (The same cry erupted from businesses when most city bike lanes were built, and the sky did not fall.)

Vancouver’s cyclists loved the new arrangement, and some argued the park should remain permanently closed to traffic. But the total vehicle ban was always meant to be a temporary response to the pandemic. As businesses began to open, staff divided the road to allow vehicle access on one lane and relegate cyclists to the other. That lane is now open and although parking is diminished, there is vehicle access to all businesses.

This seems to me a reasonable compromise. And if it proves successful, the park board should permanently adopt it to ease seawall congestion.

The debate is split predictably along party lines. The conservative change-averse Non-Partisan Association commissioners are resistant, arguing both lanes of Stanley Park Drive should remain open to cars until more study and community consultation is done. The more cycle-friendly commissioners of the Green Party and the Coalition of Progressive Electors argue this is a perfect opportunity to test new ways of sharing blacktop, and note there were overcrowding problems on the seawall long before the pandemic struck.

So where will most Vancouverites land on this? The COVID-19 pandemic has hastened a cycling renaissance that was already under way by those seeking to reduce their carbon footprint. If it holds, there will be more calls to wrest pavement away from motorized vehicles.

Before they resist, politicians should note the record-busting pandemic bike-sale statistics and check out the two-wheeling crowds on Stanley Park Drive.

Original article here

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22 June 2020

Outdoor pools and spray parks opening, lifeguards returning to Vancouver beaches

June 22 2020 

The Vancouver Park Board is opening four outdoor pools, 10 spray parks, and staffing nine Vancouver beaches with lifeguards this summer.

 

July 13: three pools open, lifeguards at beaches


Kitsilano, New Brighton, and Second Beach pools will open and lifeguards will staff beaches for eight weeks, beginning July 13. Maple Grove Pool will also open but may be slightly delayed while staff configure the online booking system.

 

June 27: spray parks open


Spray Parks will begin opening across the city June 27 at the following parks: MacLean, Chaldecott, Harbour Green, Grandview, Hastings, Oak, Stanley, Prince Edward, Pandora, and Garden.

 

Flags to mark designated beach swimming areas


Lifeguards will patrol and supervise designated swimming areas at nine beaches: English Bay, Jericho, Kitsilano, Locarno, Spanish Banks East and West, Sunset, Third, and Trout Lake.

Swimming zones at beaches will be marked by new red and yellow flags (instead of buoys that were used in the past), which indicate the area will be supervised and patrolled by lifeguards between 11:30am and 8:30pm every day through to September 7.

 

Safety measures at pools


New safety protocols have been developed for outdoor pool usage and are aligned with Lifesaving Society Canada’s recently released guidelines. Enhanced lifeguard protocols have also been developed in conjunction with WorkSafe BC.

 

Change rooms closed, swimmers allowed in time blocks


Outdoor pools will reopen for a combination of designated lap swimming sessions and public swimming sessions. Patrons must arrive “swim ready,” as change rooms will not be open and physical distancing protocols will be in place at entrances and exits and throughout the pools’ facilities. Washrooms will be open for users.

Casual swimmers can book a 90 minute swim block, while lap swimmers can book for a 45 minute swim period. There will be a 30 minute buffer between swim periods during which time the facilities will be sanitized and prepared for the next group. The pools will reopen with reduced maximum capacities, in alignment with new protocols around decreased bathing loads.

 

Combined online reservations and drop-ins


Admission to pools will be managed through a combination of an online reservation system and in-person drop-ins, all with contactless electronic payment. Leisure Access Pass holders will be provided with access to the reservation system. Park Board Flexi passes and cash will not be accepted.

Snorkels and kickboards will not be permitted and there will be no rentals of swimming goggles or towels.

Lifeguards and staff will complete ongoing spot cleans on all equipment, facilities, and high touch areas.

 

New guidelines at pools

 

  • Line marking and delineating 2.1 m x 2.1 m (7 ft x 7 ft) physical distancing pods on pool deck.
  • Wider lanes for length swimming.
  • Directional signage, new pool rules, and signage.
  • Lifeguards will wear personal protection equipment when on duty.

 

New guidelines at beaches

  • Physical distancing requirements of 2 m are mandatory for everyone on beaches (lifeguards and community).
  • Change rooms will remain closed, although bathrooms are open.
  • When lifeguards are performing first aid, only the patient and the lifeguard will be allowed in each first aid room at a time. One parent or guardian from the same household will be allowed to accompany a child.
  • Beachgoers are to keep a minimum of 2 m distance from a lifeguard’s chair.
  • Lifeguards will wear personal protection equipment when on duty.

The Park Board will not be deploying rafts at beaches, as there are many obstacles for maintaining community safety and for lifeguards to manage.

 

Water wheelchairs and non-slip beach mats

 
Ten water wheelchairs will be available on a first come, first serve basis at beaches and can be reserved online. Non-slip beach mats are available at Kits and English Bay beaches to allow people with walkers, wheelchairs, and scooters to enjoy the beach experience.

 

What facilities are open

 
In recent weeks, the Park Board has reopened golf courses, VanDusen Botanical Garden, tennis and pickleball courts, skate parks, synthetic sports fields, basketball and volleyball courts, disc golf, roller hockey, multisport courts, playgrounds, and pitch and putt.

The Park Board continues to review the feasibility of reopening other facilities and services and will make adjustments to its operations based on the latest information provided by Vancouver Coastal Health, the Provincial Health Officer, and industry partners.

For more information about the status of services and facilities impacted by COVID-19,
visit vancouver.ca/covid19.


19 June 2020

Vancouver Park Board to reopen Stanley Park with temporary shared roadways for vehicles and cyclists

"I also want to remind Vancouverites that particularly while we are in the midst of a pandemic, we need to remain calm, respectful, and to support each other through this difficult time."
Camil Dumont, Chair of the Vancouver Park Board


June 19 2020 

The Vancouver Park Board passed a motion on Friday, June 19 to reopen Stanley Park with temporary measures to provide modified access to vehicle traffic to support businesses, individuals, and park partner needs. The reopen will see one lane of Park Drive designated for vehicles, while the other will be reserved for cyclists to allow for adequate physical distancing inside the park as the province readies itself to enter phase three of the BC Restart Plan .

The Board has directed staff to take urgent action on this decision and to collaborate with park partners to ensure vehicles will be able to access all park facilities as soon as possible.
Staff will continue work on the reopening plan, which was paused pending the outcome of the Board’s decision. They expect the park could be ready for shared vehicle and cyclist traffic by early next week.

Seawall reserved for pedestrian use only

The plan will route cyclists along the right hand lane of Park Drive, with all motor vehicle traffic using the left lane. Lanes will be demarcated with a series of cones and traffic delineators, with extensive signage to support all roadway users. Under this plan, cyclists will remain on the roadways and not on the seawall, which will continue to be reserved for pedestrian use only.

The plan is temporary and in response to increased park user demands as a result of the COVID-19 pandemic. The Park Board anticipates the plan will be in place through the summer and notes changes in the pandemic may alter future usage further.

This plan is flexible and will evolve

“We need to return vehicle traffic to the park and I think this plan delivers an appropriate balance of the accessibility needs of businesses and individuals, while placing a priority on health and safety,” said Camil Dumont, Chair of the Vancouver Park Board. “I want to remind people that this plan is flexible and will evolve based on feedback from our users and partners, as well as further consultation. I also want to remind Vancouverites that particularly while we are in the midst of a pandemic, we need to remain calm, respectful, and to support each other through this difficult time.”

The Park Board closed Stanley Park to vehicle traffic on April 8 in response to the COVID-19 pandemic. The park was closed to vehicles in an effort to increase outdoor space for residents of the city and to allow for adequate physical distancing.

Open facilities and services

In recent weeks, the Park Board has reopened golf courses, VanDusen Botanical Garden, tennis and pickleball courts, skate parks, synthetic sports fields, basketball and volleyball courts, disc golf, roller hockey, multisport courts, playgrounds, and pitch and putt.

The Park Board continues to review the feasibility of reopening other facilities and services and will make adjustments to its operations based on the latest information provided by Vancouver Coastal Health, the Provincial Health Officer, and industry partners.

Find more information about the status of services and facilities impacted by COVID-19

original post here.

For the Record: My comments from last night's Park Board Special e-Meeting: Stanley Park Transportation Plan

I believe the staff plan for returning motor vehicles to Stanley Park is prudent and one which allows access to everyone.

My comments from last night's Park Board Special e-Meeting: Stanley Park Transportation Plan can be found here .


10 June 2020

For the Record: My Comments on 'Exploring Options to Reduce Motor Vehicle Traffic in Stanley Park'

These are my comments from the debate on the motion presented Monday night. Much of it comes from my earlier postion 'Accessible Spaces for Everyone' below. You can watch/listen to my comments here.


Thank you, Chair Dumont,

Change is difficult. I understand that. When one-way streets were introduced some thought traffic would grind to a halt. When traffic calming measures were introduced some thought they wouldn’t be able to access their neighbourhood. When angle parking was replaced with parallel parking some thought business would stop. People generally don’t like change. 

As we reopen our parks and recreation facilities, I believe this is a good time to exam our policies on accessibility. Despite what you may have heard or read, this motion is not asking for a ban on cars in Stanley Park. On the contrary, automobile access to the park is just one of the many ways individuals and groups access the park and must be able to continue to do so.

However, as Stanley Park has become more popular, I believe it is time that we looked at who has access and how they do it. I am not at all sure that as it stands the park is easily accessible for all, including those without their own vehicle or those with disabilities or mobility difficulties. I think a complete review of accessibility to and within the park should be examined.

The motion asks that our staff consider alternatives to what is in place now. They may come back with recommendations to pedestrian or bicycle access. They may come back with recommendations that automobile access be changed. They may recommend improved public transit within the park. They may recommend something else completely. Or they may conclude saying no changes are necessary at all. 

The motion asks for consultation, which would include the Stanley Park Intergovernmental Working Group. It would include park partners, stakeholders and the community at large. It would include the City of Vancouver's Persons with Disabilities Advisory Committee. I'm sure it would include the Seniors Committee, the Womens Committee, and the other advisory committees of the city. 

I believe it would include the Active Transportation community; the residents of the West End who could be impacted by any changes. It would certainly include the businesses both within the park, and those that could be impacted by changes that are outside of the park. And it would include the public at-large. 

What the motion does not do is prescribe any changes to access.

Just because we have done something for a long time doesn't mean there isn't room for improvement. For me what this motion is about is asking “how can we improve access to Stanley Park for everyone?

Access for everyone is an equity issue. Our new VanPlay master plan for parks and recreation has equity as one of its key foundational statements. This motion fits within this mandate. 

Thank you.